R: So, this being your first ever European tour, how have people’s reactions been?

D: It’s been really good. People have received us well and been really nice to us. The shows have been massive, obviously, thanks to Set It Off.

R: Yes, the show today even got upgraded!

D (laughs): We actually went to the wrong place earlier and were confused because there were no vans or people. The other show was at the MTC right?

R: Yeah, it was! I love it because there is no barrier!

D: I don’t love a barrier, but it depends on the show. For me it’s like no barrier is great if kids are gonna be crowdsurfing and going hard but as shows, where people are mainly just trying to watch the band, a barrier makes sense.

R: Has there been lots of crowdsurfing this tour?

D: No, not really. We had a few people trying to crowdsurf [the other] night and people weren’t super into it.

R: Since the reactions have been positive, do you have any plans on coming back to Europe?

D: We are planning on coming back. We can’t say anything at the moment ‘cause we don’t really know when it’ll be. [As] a band of our size, we get submitted for tours and trying to get support slots because we obviously wanna grow over here and be able to do a proper headliner for people… we’ll see.

R: Your album has been out for a while. How have the reactions been compared to the EP’s?

D: The record went over really well. There is still this die-hard group of people that love the EP ‘Nothing Here Is Permanent’. You know they get the tattoos and it’s like their thing and they love it and it’s just something they connected with super hard. Our record has done a lot more for us than the EP has.

R: Do you have any plans on going back into writing or have you even started writing already?

D: We are already writing again, and I think we will be back in the studio maybe this summer.

R: Oh, that’s quite soon!

D: It is! I mean, we are really confident in what we are writing right now. It’s like a huge step up from what I believe we have done in the past so we just wanna get it out there.

R: Do you know if it’ll be another album or an EP?

D: I don’t know, right now we are just writing. We definitely want to release something for people as soon as possible.

R: Yeah, to stay in people’s minds.

D: I mean, the streaming era is just kinda out there. It’s not like people don’t listen to albums but it is just the way they digest media now.  The record isn’t dead there’s still a place for it. As a band it’s an incredible thing to work on it. It’s this half hour / 40-minute-long piece of art that you can kind of put together in a unique way. I think a lot of fans want really good songs more often, so I guess that’s kinda where it’s shifting, too, but it’s not a bad thing, by any means.

R: Who came up with the idea for the Zine (tour booklet) and what inspired you to do it?

D: Ryan came up with that idea. I guess his whole thing was: not a lot of people are gonna know who we are over here in Europe and the UK, especially supporting a band where most shows were sold out before we were even announced. 

This will maybe give them a little idea and catch them up a bit on who we are.

There are tour stories in there and information about us. 

Ryan learned a whole new program on his computer just to put this together.

He worked super, super hard on it and making sure he got everyone’s tattoos and all the pictures that we wanted.

R: What is your craziest tour experience?

D (laughs): it seems like its only crazy to us because we are always in new places, but I would say one of the fondest memories I have on tour is going camping with our friends of Between You and Me and we had beers and cooked veggie dogs over the fire.

One time there was an abandoned building nearby, and we went trekking over there to explore that a little bit. Unfortunately, Collin fell off a balcony type of thing as it was really dark.

That picture is in the booklet actually. He wasn’t watching his footing, I guess.

He went to look at a window and just went down. It wasn’t like super far, but 6 feet (1,83 meter) is pretty far when you don’t expect it to happen. Luckily, he took the fall well and we still have him.

R: Is there any guilty please music you listen to?

D: I don’t know, we like Taylor Swift. This isn’t a guilty pleasure but we all love LANY. Man, LANY is incredible. We have been listening to a lot of Billie Eilish on this tour. Sometimes people put the ‘Baby Shark’ song on. That’s a little fucked up, it’s like the biggest earworm. As soon as you forget about it, you’re good and then someone be like *sings* ‘Nananana…’

R (laughs): Just like the sims 4 Soundtrack …

D: The Sims 4 Soundtrack is fucking dope. I mean they’re not saying anything, but it is good music. Have you heard that Katy Perry did a Sims song?

R: Yes! Even bands like All Time Low and Paramore did one.

D: I would love to do one. Even though it’d be a lot of work to learn Simlish.

R: Are there any conspiracies you believe in?

D: Every once in a while, we have a silly argument if the moon landing was real. We argue a little but then none of us cares if it’s real or not. We like to make fun of the earth being flat. We will joke about that stuff but none of us believes that. I think we all believe in aliens but that’s an easy thing to [do] because it’d be pretty crazy not to [think] they exist. Not that I’m saying we’d ever make contact but there is no way we are the only thing out there, and if we are that’d be fucked up and very sad. We [also] love Blink182 so every once in a while we’ll indulge in a little Tom DeLonge conspiracy theorie drama but I don’t think we believe in anything too crazy.

R (laughs): Like the world being a doughnut.

D (laughs): Honestly, I’d probably prefer it to be a doughnut, that way if an asteroid hits us, it’d hit right in the middle.